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lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-02, 01:33 #1
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Subject: Sleeping in your Corset
I have started my training for about a week now and I think everything is going well.  I have been taking it slow, breaking in the corset, and then going from there and now I can lace in about 5 inches for about 12-13 hours a day.  It is uplifting because everyday has gotten easer and my corset more comfortable.

One of the things I was most worried about was that tightlacing wasn't going to fit into my daily life.  I have 3 active boys one of them being 11 months old, so I have to be active too.  After this week I am happy to know that you can be active and corseted.

I have to pick up my baby all though out the day, and at first this felt uncomfortable but not so much any more.  I am also a gardener and I got out in the garden this week and did some moving of heavy rocks for making flowerbeds, which included using a dolly and my girly muscles.  :) Lots of activity there and it wasn't bad.  In some ways I think it may have even helped.

There have also been some negative parts this week such as a little heartburn, (own fault, ate spicy food,) and uncomfortableness because I ate too much at a meal.  (I still haven't got the eating small through out the day down yet.)  I have to make a few minor adjustments to my corset pattern that I found I didn’t like but not a big deal.

I had a question though about sleeping in your corset.  To me it seems important to sleep in your corset because (correct me if I am wrong,) everything would bounce back into place overnight and you would have to start all over from square one the next day?  I haven't slept all night in my corset yet and think that it will be difficult for me if I do.  I was wondering do you guys feel it is necessary, or just a preference?

Well that is about it.  It is a pretty exciting time for me and I hope to fill you in as time goes on.
Lil Miz Cheezcake
Roger Conroy (Administrator) 2008-05-02, 07:14 #2
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Congratulations on your progress so far!

You are correct about having to restart from the beginning if you don't sleep in your corset.
You might want to try loosening a little for sleeping - this should allow you to sleep through quite soon.
Instead of a 5 inch reduction, try 4 at bedtime.

As you have discovered, corsets give you an advantage for hard manual work.
People who do weightlifting for sport all wear a tight wide belt, as do some (the sensible ones) people who do heavy manual work.
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Annalai (Moderator) 2008-05-02, 08:13 #3
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Sorry but 5 inches in a weeks times is not taking it slow. 5 inches going slow means some months time not  only a week.
I would suggest you slow down going too fast will not give enough time for your body to adept.

If you really want to train your waist smaller I believe you should sleep in your corset but first after you have really learnt to be comfortable during daytime and this can take some weeks time. I always loose a bit on the lacing and in the beginning I used a very small and soft pillow under the waist and another one under my knees this helped me to learn to sleep in my corset nowdays I do not use any extra pillows but I still loose a bit just before bedtime and tighten it again in the morning always before breakfast.
In the beginning when I had problem to sleep in my corset I insted used a trainingbelt to sleep in. For me it took some months time before I was totally comfortable during daytime in my corset and I felt comfortable to start to sleep in my corset.  So I first got used to sleep in my belt before I started to sleep in my corset.

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tighter_jen 2008-05-02, 10:38 #4
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I am also somewhat surprised at the five inch reduction in a week...  8-( though if it does not cause you any inordinate discomfort and you seem to function normally, it may not be a problem. I strongly suggest you monitor your condition closely, and maybe loosen a little bit if you feel something wrong. Listen to your body's signals. I know that for me, when it is too much, I can't last more than an hour or two.

I confirm that a corset actually helps in manual labor, since up here in the Montreal area we have had close to record snowfall and the last big blizzard required me to dig out my car from about wheel-deep snow - a few hours of work, plus digging my way to it. The next day, I didn't have my usual back ache. A corset protects the back, and as Roger mentioned, weightlifters wear a wide support belt, as do some manual laborers (like movers).

I also support Roger in suggesting that you loosen your corset slightly for sleeping. In my case, it was also very distracting at first. Another method is to try to catch a nap sitting in a comfortable chair or recliner (though it may be difficult with three rambunctious little rascals romping around). That was the way I managed to sleep for the first time in my corset, a little over two years ago, and about six weeks into my waist training. I fell asleep watching TV, and woke up a couple of hours later, pleasantly surprised. Within a week, I slept my first full night in my corset. You will need to get over the novelty of wearing a corset before the distraction wears off.  ;-)

Eagerly looking forward to your updates!  :-D

Jennifer.
Self-discipline and patience are the keys to a tight waist...
The event horizon cannot be reached without some squeezing and pulling...
lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-02, 19:36 #5
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Thank you all for your helpful motivation and advice.

I appreciate your concern Annalai and where I didn't think 5 inches was very much, I suppose now that you brought it up, maybe it is a lot?  I don't feel a lot of discomfort and have been really paying attention to my body to see if I feel anything that might be a sign that I should loosen the laces but nothing seems to be bothering me.  I do feel a little bit of discomfort sometimes but it is nothing bad enough to make me take off the corset, so I just assumed it is normal.  Should I be feeling zero discomfort when I first start training?

I am a very squishy person, having a baby 11 months ago, and I feel that maybe that is the reason 5 inches doesn’t seem like much.  I am going for long term and do not want to cause myself a problem that would make me have to stop, and I have no problem loosening the laces if I need to or something doesn’t feel right.  Would you suggest maybe going down to 3 or 4 inches even if I do not really feel a lot of discomfort, or would you think it was ok to keep going with 5 inches?

I am going to do just as you said and wait until I am completely comfortable in my corset during the day before sleeping in it at night.  And thanks Jen for the nap idea.  Yes it will be difficult to steal a nap in but you never know sometimes, maybe everyone will need a nap!  :)

I feel very fortunate to have knowledgeable people here like you to help me out.  Thanks everyone.
Lil Miz Cheezcake
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tighter_jen 2008-05-03, 01:45 #6
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Zero discomfort is impossible when you're literally reshaping your body. If it is only occasional, intermittent, and has a tendency to appear less often over time, it is not something to worry about. I had some discomfort in the first couple of weeks, and for about the same time each time I switched to a new and tighter corset. If the discomfort becomes more intense over time, and becomes more frequent, that's a sign that there is a problem, either because of improper fit or excessive tightening.

From your description of your discomfort, occasional and minor, it does not seem to be cause for alarm. But still, monitor yourself closely.

It is possible that your recent pregnancy has already prepared your body for the corset. Pregnancy displaces the organs quite a bit, more so than tightlacing in most cases, and it could be that which accounts for your "squishiness". Your internal organs may already be accustomed (three times in your case) to being shoved around.

Take care!

Jennifer.
Self-discipline and patience are the keys to a tight waist...
The event horizon cannot be reached without some squeezing and pulling...
lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-03, 14:46 #7
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The discomfort is occasional and intermittent but does happen more frequently around the 11-13 hour range but I suppose that is natural.  I did lace to only 4 inches today because I am worried maybe I am taking things a little to quickly and just because I can lace to 5 maybe that doesn't mean I should.  I figured I have nothing to lose by lacing a little less and moving a little slower.  There really is no rush and maybe I am a bit to excited about everything.

It is a bit confusing on the speed at which one should move on though.  It seems like there is so much variance on the internet.  I know listening to your body is the main factor but how much time should you allow your body to become accustom before moving on?  Is it a couple of weeks or is there really no exact timeline?

I think that is correct in the fact that because I had a child not to long ago that it might be a big contributor to my squishiness.  The other is that I feel I need to lose a few pounds.  :)

Thanks Jen for your thoughts and I hope you are having a good day today.
Lil Miz Cheezcake
Annalai (Moderator) 2008-05-03, 15:23 #8
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Hi,

It is only you who knows how it feels but remember you put a pressure on your inside and this pressure should be gradually so the body has time to adapt.  So going slow means you will more likely have a smaller waist much more comfortable and safer in the end.
I do not want to scare you and if you feel fine it is ok we are all different and some can easily lace down several inches for a night out. But if you want to train your waist small and be comfortable almost all the time go slower and let your body adept to this lifestyle.


I suggest read all this 4 chapters.
http://www.staylace.com/medicaladvice/med_cthb.htm


Read this article also.

http://www.staylace.com/thomaslierse/@ealol.htm

Here you  can find more to read.
http://www.geocities.com/ther_over/harmful.htm
lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-03, 20:19 #9
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Thanks Annalai-  I have read these articles but it was awhile ago and it was a good time for a review.  I guess I have to just pick one bit of information and go with it instead of be confused by conflicting reports all over the internet.  In the first staylace article it is mentioned to have a corset that laces to 4 inches in the beginning and then when you are comfortable with that, next move on to another corset with 4 inches less and so on.  I think this is a good number to work with but I was wondering in your opinion, how long should someone be corseted at that beginning 4 inches before moving on to the next 4 inches?  I am guessing I should feel completely comfortable with my corset and be able to sleep in it before moving on to the next 4 inches?

Would a realistic training plan go such as:  The beginning 4 inches, around 2 weeks then assess how I feel then possibility continuing on to the next 4 inches?  I imagine the next 4 inches will take much longer to achieve so maybe a month or two, then assess how I feel?  Each time I move to the next 4 inches should I be able to lace the corset comfortably closed for a week or more?  Is this the best way to go about it?
Lil Miz Cheezcake
Annalai (Moderator) 2008-05-03, 23:08 #10
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Well you write about an 8 inch reduction for me this took about 2 years but I have been training my ribs all the time also so not only my waist. So to give advice how long it would take for someone who does not train the ribs also is very difficult for me but the time chedule you write about sounds too optimistic for me. Personally I would give it much more time. To have the waistsize I have today and I feel comfortable have no health or foodproblems etc. has taken my 4 YEARS of going very slowly and allowing myself some weeks of being comfortable before going smaller and training again.

This is something I wrote about my training.
http://www.corsetcollege.net/388

Maybe this text about Cathie is helpfull.
http://www.cathiejung.com/cathie_jung/publications/body_pl…

And this one.  Read the text in the middle of the article.
http://www.cathiejung.com/cathie_jung/guinness_book.html

Annalai
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tighter_jen 2008-05-04, 02:08 #11
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Annalai is right about the eight inch reduction. It will take time to reach that. It is now a little more than two years into my waist training and I am comfortable with a seven inch reduction from my natural waist at this time. I have a corset that is two inches tighter than the one I wear daily, but those two inches are a huge step down.

For me, in the beginning, the steps went fast - about an inch per month - because my natural waist was also shrinking because the parallel diet. I had to lose weight to stay healthy in the long term - I want to avoid heart disease and diabetes and such.

Now the reduction rate is much slower (I have attained my target weight range), and as I get tighter, the steps down I can take easily also get much smaller. And my corsets last longer between tightenings. The first two lasted about three months each. The third one lasted about a year, and the current one is approaching the one year mark at the current girth. It is due for a one inch tightening very soon. Only one inch in one year! That inch is going to take getting used to before I take another inch out, maybe less. As one gets smaller, the incremental reductions that are tolerable also get smaller. Part of that is due to proportion, and the rest because there is a limit to how much one can be compressed. Before I can expect to have a figure comparable to Annalai's, it will be another couple of years, maybe more. Which is in step with Annalai's progress rate.

There is another issue that will have to be dealt with as you get tighter - the ribs. The first six months of my waist training, I didn't have much compression of the lower ribs, so it was not too bothersome. The third corset had a larger reduction relative to my natural waist at the time, and so there was more pressure on the ribs. After about six weeks of wearing this one, I had to switch back to the previous corset for a couple of weeks because my ribs were having trouble adapting. When I felt better, I started wearing the new one for a few hours before switching to the old one for sleeping. A month later, I was wearing the new one full time. The current corset wasn't so much of a problem because a) my ribs were now accustomed to being compressed and b) my corset-making skills had improved and my new design - the current master pattern - was much better than the previous ones.

I could never set a real target reduction rate for my training because there were too many variables that changed over time. With experience, I abandoned any preconceived expectations and just go according to how I feel.

It was only late last year that I found this forum, and since then, I have seen that all the experiences that I went through in my waist training are all, more or less, what everyone goes through. And I'm glad that I have found a bank of experience like this to help me see what lies on the road ahead as I get really tight.

Jennifer.
Self-discipline and patience are the keys to a tight waist...
The event horizon cannot be reached without some squeezing and pulling...
lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-04, 04:45 #12
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I too am very glad I have found this wonderful place.  It is like opening a treasure chest. It is amazing help to talk to people and be able to discuss things When you are embarking on a new adventure.

I will start by saying that Annalai, when you said my plan was a bit optimistic, I think I should rephrase that, and say that it was a bit naive.  Or maybe clueless would be a better terminology.  :)  I was way off and you guys have really opened my eyes.  That is what I needed to know to keep myself in check on not progressing to quickly or trying to over do it.  Thank you so much for explaining to me your experiences.  What great help!  It is exciting to know now some realistic goals to work toward.

I didn't think 5 inches was a big deal because it feels like I am starting at such a high number. (Whispers very quietly...I have a 35-inch waist.)  Five inches doesn't seem like much.  It seems like after the baby I am normal except the abdominal area.  I too like Jen would like to lose weight as I train but obviously that is not the only thing I am interested in.  I love corsets and just from this week of wearing them, love wearing them.

Also I was not considering the rib reduction.  That sounds like a whole another ball game.  I am interested and love the shape that the rib reduction does give so I forsee giving it a try in the future.  I had a question about that though; with rib reduction is that were the breathing gets affected a lot, or is that not the case?  Right now I have a good amount of upper thorax room because I was worried about being active and didn't want to not be able to breath if I had to chase after a rug rat. (Definition of rug rat:  Wild child; usually very close, in height, to the area of the rug.)

I completely understand that a real target rate can't be set because of all the variables.  It may seem strange but it is actually relaxing to me to know that.  Now I can just relax and go with the flow.  I can just lace up and enjoy it for what it is, not feeling like I am on some kind of time line.  Now I think it is very strange I didn't feel this way from the start.

Millions of thanks guys-
Lil Miz Cheezcake
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tighter_jen 2008-05-04, 10:02 #13
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(quietly whispering back) I also started with a natural waist 35-36 inches...  :blush: My first "training" corset could take me down to 31, but the first couple of weeks, it was murder at 33-34! I will soon be at 21-22, two and a half years later, because I feel that under my corset, there room for the extra inch. When will the next inch go? Another year? Less? More? The correct answer is: whenever it's ready.

For the rib reshaping, my experience has shown that breathing is not really that affected, just a little changed in how you breathe, moving into the upper chest area. I have no trouble with physical activity while tightlaced - my snow shoveling this winter attests to that (re: an earlier post here). Then, some people may adapt better to that than others - they're just naturally more compressible (or squishy). Also, I waited until I had lost quite a bit of weight (about 25 lbs) before going from an hourglass shape to the conical chest you see in my avatar.

Like with the waist, start gradually, don't hesitate to back off if it becomes too uncomfortable, and get back on the saddle when you feel better.

You'll have no trouble hunting for the elusive wild rug rat.  ;-)

Jennifer
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lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-05, 03:57 #14
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That is good to know.  Sometimes when it comes to waist training, it seems the waist numbers are so small it is a bit embarrassing to mention a larger waist even as a beginner.

Well that is good to know I can still run after the rug rat with lower rib compression. ( I thought I’d explain the definition of rug rat so that some don't think I have a strange hygiene problem in my house.) I bet a conical shape is very difficult to achieve but I do like that a lot better than the hourglass and that is where I would like to be one day.

Thanks a lot for your help Jen.
Lil Miz Cheezcake
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If you currently have a rug-rat infestation - beware the ankle-biter which come later! LOL!

This raises an interesting question for which I have not yet found a satisfactory answer:

How soon after childbirth is it ok to wear a corset and then to tightlace?
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