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lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-10, 15:30 #31
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What an interesting thread!  Us corset people are quite the scientists.  :)

Jen- what a great experiment!  Nothing wrong with watching the discovery channel.  :)

Andy- I imagine the pic you have added is of the kevlar fabric you speak of?  Just double checking.
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andy 2008-05-10, 17:03 #32
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yep. The picture is of kevlar mesh. source
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tighter_jen 2008-05-11, 00:21 #33
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Ha! A fruitful visit to the fabric store this morning - with lots of "staring" at various fabrics - yields an interesting find in the mesh fabric department: Textilene.

It is available in various weaves, from a loose mesh (maybe 10-12 per inch) to what seems to be a tight weave but is still quite air-permeable (you can still see through, partially). It is moisture resistant and very strong - one of its uses is for outdoor furniture like folding chairs. It costs between $9 and $14 a metre (including the 20% discount for my membership). Some of the varieties are quite thick and stiff, but there are some that are thinner and more flexible. It is even available in color patterns.

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lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-11, 15:09 #34
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Thank you Andy for the source.  It was a very interesting article.  I really like the idea of Kevlar being the fabric and it sure does look like the fabric but after reading the article do you think special cutting tools would be needed?  It just sounds like something that is bullet proof might be stubborn to cut?  Do you think so or do you know if it cuts like regular fabric?

Textilene sounds like a great mesh fabric.  I found here:

http://www.arizonasunsupply.com/textilene.htm

That is also used for screens and all sorts of things.  It seems very versatile and it looks like you have found a better deal on it than is offered on this site.

On this site:

http://www.glfi.com/vinylbook_textilenepage.htm

It shows all the great colors it comes in and that it is a mesh fabric woven of strong polyester yarns that are individually coated.

A likely candidate I think.  :)  Has it already been subject to your weight experiment?
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tighter_jen 2008-05-11, 23:56 #35
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Textilene should be a lot stronger than the flyscreen I tested because the core is an actual polyester thread, not at all like the flimsy little fuzz in the flyscreen's core. I suspect it would perform much better in the stress test.

As for the better deal, the one I bought costs $9 a meter, retail. There are others that are heavier and cost up to $14 a meter. The fabric store I went to has three or four outlets and buys in quantity, plus I have the 20% discount for being a member ($20 a year, more than paid back in one or two purchases). The first link you gave seems to be a wholesale outlet, and their prices are reasonable if scaled down to normal retail quantities (not 300 feet!). The second link has outrageous prices, even for a retail outlet.

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lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-12, 17:49 #36
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While snooping around I found this:

"By Dieter 3/17/99
Since my wife and I are both tightly corseted most of the time and we live mostly in hot tropical countries, the use of a superstrong but very lightweight fabric was a long, impossible dream.

Through my business connections, I was able to acquire a test sample of Kevlar(R) fabric woven in a very open, mesh-like configuration. We took this to my wife's corsetiere in Argentina, who, after some initial doubts, made a magnificent corset out of it for my her. She has had this corset now four years, and it is as good as new, despite almost daily (and nightly) wear tightly laced to 18".. My wife says, despite the double steels, this is her lightest corset and, in contrast to all her others, she does not get hot wearing it. There is ample air circulation to her skin, which,can be easily seen through the mesh. Any sweat (although ladies,supposedly don't sweat) evaporates immediately under lose outer clothing.

Kevlar(R) is a new, superhigh-strength fiber; on a per weight basis,stronger than steel. It does not stretch at all and only comes in a yellow-golden color. I estimate the fiber of the fabric we have at no,more than 70 denier, which is very fine.

I am sure the producer of this space-age fiber is looking for new,applications and markets. Unfortunately, so far, corsets do not have seemed to develop into a mass market."

I found this on a staylace topic site here:

http://www.staylace.com/forum/topic4.htm

So making a corset out of Kevlar has been done with success it seems.  :)
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lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-12, 19:51 #37
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Now after Kevlar has peaked my interest, I can't seem to find a supplier that I could buy a yard or two from.  I seem to come a crossed suppliers from China that I can imagine if they sell to the general public, their shipping would be crazy.

Has anyone else had any luck with finding a suitable place to buy Kevlar mesh from?  How much does this stuff go for anyway?
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Roger Conroy (Administrator) 2008-05-13, 10:50 #38
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It seems to be quite commonly used in the manufacture of protective clothing for motorbikers. Finding such a manufacturer is one way to get some.
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lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-29, 21:47 #39
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I am not sure if any of you are in the same dilemma as I am, but I am having a heck of a time trying to find a mesh fabric for my summer corset.  After brain numbing searching for Kevlar, no luck.  And after irritating searching for textilene, I am not finding any place that would sell me a couple yards of the stuff.   :-/

I having been looking up and down the internet and all of these strong meshes seem out of reach, selling by bulk or only selling whole sale or something.  I finally thought I found something great on ebay only to get it today and find that it was misrepresented claiming it was NONSTRETCH and used for cross-stitch applications.  I am now trying to contact the seller to see if I can return their stretchy "no way used for cross stitch" fabric.

*sigh*  I am worn out!  Have you guys had any better luck?  Does anyone have any ideas?  My break before summer quarter is approaching soon and I am left empty handed.   :-(
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andy 2008-05-29, 23:54 #40
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Textilene? Did you try Rosebrand?

54 inch bolts, $10.55 per yard. Plus shipping.
lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-30, 04:49 #41
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No I have not.  Thank you very much Mr. andy.   :-D
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