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lilmizcheezcake 2008-04-18, 13:35 #1
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Subject: Mesh, summer corsets for tightlacing?
I came across this site:

http://www.madamesher.com/designs/

and really enjoyed checking out all the beautiful corset styles and thought maybe you would too.  I really like this corsetmaker’s craftsmanship.  What do you guys think?  I was really eyeing the busk because they have square clasps instead of rounded, and I had never seen that before.  Turns out they are specially made for the corsetmaker.  I tried to look up the site that was linked to the busk producer to see if I could maybe buy one but unfortunately it is in a different language.  ;(

Anyway, back to my original point of posting, I had a question about the mesh, ribbon type corsets that this site has.  I think, if I understood it right, that they are advertising that these mesh, summer type corsets would be good for tightlacing.  I wanted to know what your opinion on that was.  To me this type of corset doesn't look strong enough but I am not sure what the mesh is made out of either?  Any thoughts on this would be great.

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Miss Annalisa James 2008-04-18, 17:06 #2
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I followed the link to the corset makers website and I love her designs! I, too, am curious to know how durable the mesh material would be. Are they located in Brazil?
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Annalai (Moderator) 2008-04-18, 17:58 #3
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Hi,

It is several of videos with this corsetmaker on you tube but they do not speak english. You can find her if you search on madame sher.
Well one thing is they are not really custom made in such way I believe a tightlacing corset should be. She ask for bust, waist, hip and the leanght. I think for an average person with not so much reduction yet this may be enough.
I had a summer corset from wasp creation it was not made from mesh but was a one layer corset with the stays on the outside so the only real different was the fabric I guess. This corset was perfectly fine and worked for tightlacing so a one layer corset if it is well made and has a waist tape I think is ok. My guess is it may not hold as long as a corset with several layers.
Well not much help I guess but they shure looks interesting, Do tell us and show pictures if you do buy one.

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tighter_jen 2008-04-19, 01:49 #4
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Wow! There are some really beautiful corsets... thanks for the link! It made my day.  ;-)

Jennifer.
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The event horizon cannot be reached without some squeezing and pulling...
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Miss Annalisa James 2008-04-22, 17:44 #5
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In reply to post #1
I have never seen this type of "horizontal" boning before. If that is what you would call it. Do any other corset makers use this style?
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lilmizcheezcake 2008-04-22, 19:47 #6
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I don't really know any right of hand but I think that type of style is called "ribbon corsets." (Please someone correct me if I am wrong.)  I think if you look up ribbon corset you might find more info.  Also something new I just learned, the mesh type corsets are also referred to skeleton corsets but that has nothing to do with the way they are boned, just the mesh fabric used instead of regular fabric.  Hope that might be of some help.
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tighter_jen 2008-04-23, 01:02 #7
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That is correct. It is a ribbon corset. They are lightly boned, front back and sides only. They are made of horizontal panels on the sides connecting the busk in front and lacings in the back. I don't know if the horizontal stripes on the sides are bones or just accents.

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andy 2008-04-23, 01:28 #8
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Some of the other tight comfort corsets are boned normally.

[Image: http://www.madamesher.com/fotos/under_meshlace02.jpg]
Annalai (Moderator) 2008-04-23, 12:11 #9
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The original ribbon corset they used in the late 1800 was a short corset only constricting the waist. Some was made of silk ribbons but they also made some sturdier ones made from heavier ribbons they wore for when playing tennis or riding etc.

If you look at an original ribbon corset the ribbons are not sewn together to each other, each stripe of ribbon is attached to the frontbusk/back and the side in a single layer only. The ribbons slighlty overlap each other. The support only comes from the sides back and front so this style is not suitable for tigthtlacing. You still can get some reduction with such style but was mostly worn as before bedtime corset (weddingnight corset) or used by thin ladies who did not need a sturdier corset.

So the ribbon corsets Madame Sher makes seems more to be a modern version and not made in the same way. My guess is it is no horisontal boning but I may be wrong.
On an original ribbon corset it is at least no horisontal boning.


This one made by Lace Embrace looks like to be correctly made like the original ribbon corsets was made.

https://www.laceembrace.com/catalog/product_info…?cPath=…

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tighter_jen 2008-04-23, 13:36 #10
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That's what I thought. It's probably some sort of accent to hide the seams between the ribbons. I tried to figure out how horizontal boning would help in a corset and it just didn't compute in my little brain...

Thanks for the link to Lace Embrace, Annalai. They have some really nice corsets.

Jennifer.
Self-discipline and patience are the keys to a tight waist...
The event horizon cannot be reached without some squeezing and pulling...
Roger Conroy (Administrator) 2008-04-28, 08:51 #11
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I have been searching for clues about what the mesh fabric is but have had no luck.
It would obviously have to be something extraordinarily strong.
Does anyone here know?
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lilmizcheezcake 2008-05-02, 01:04 #12
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Well, I too, have been hunting around for an answer to the possible fabric used in these corsets and what I came up with is something called Aida cloth, or cross-stitch fabric.  I am still not sure exactly if this is really what it is or if this fabric could be strong enough but maybe it will help you out in your searches.  When I finally make it to the fabric store I am going to give this cross-stitch fabric a good staring at.  :)
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tighter_jen 2008-05-02, 01:23 #13
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Aida cloth is used for embroidery. It has evenly spaced holes (anywhere from 7 to 20 per inch) that make a grid, and leaves space to run the embroidery thread or yarn. It is relatively stiff, which is an advantage. It looks a little like fine mosquito netting. The main drawbacks are a tendency to fray (so careful hemming is needed) and slight shrinkage when washed.

In my opinion it could be worth experimenting with (and staring at), if only to see what happens.

Jennifer.
Self-discipline and patience are the keys to a tight waist...
The event horizon cannot be reached without some squeezing and pulling...
Roger Conroy (Administrator) 2008-05-02, 17:58 #14
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The mesh fabric in the corset doesn't look anything like aida cloth.
Aida cloth is very heavy - thick threads with small spaces between.
[Image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Aida-cloth.jpg]

The corset fabric is the opposite - thin threads with wide spaces - more like the fly-screen on my bedroom window!
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This post was edited on 2008-05-02, 18:10 by Roger Conroy.
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tighter_jen 2008-05-03, 09:51 #15
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True, aida cloth is heavier than the fabric in the picture, but it still has holes. I still say it would be worth a try just to see what happens. It could end up being a "well waddayaknow" moment, or a "what the heck was I thinking" one. I've done some crazy (by conventional thinking) things and come out with some great ideas. Not all the time, but it can happen. Creativity starts with a little insanity, no?  ;-)

Speaking of insanity, some of the flyscreens on the windows of my apartment are made of plastic netting, which seems rather soft, smooth, and flexible, yet is quite unstretchable... I could get a 4' by 5' piece of this for a few bucks at the hardware store... Are you pondering what I'm pondering? With some other inexpensive and/or recycled materials, an experiment could be performed at minimal cost...   <_<

Yes, I know, I'm insane and this couldn't possibly work.  :nuts:

But I've got a lot of scrap fabric and other materials lying around and dangnabbit, I'm trying. If no one tries, no one can find out. Remember, I'm wacko, squirrel bait.  :-p  ;-)

Jennifer
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