Roxey Ann Caplin (1793-1888) - The Corset College

Peter O.

2008-03-05, 20:52 #1

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Subject: Roxey Ann Caplin (1793-1888)

was a Roxey Ann Caplin, was a Famous Corsetmaker, she was inventor of
24 patents. (note: only few men have more en than 10 patents)

But do you know more about she?

Can you make a article about her on wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roxey_Ann_Caplin

Do you know more about her patents?

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andy 2008-03-05, 23:10 #2

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I suggest reading Health and Beauty

although:

Against tight lacing we, in common with all who have paid attention to the subject, earnestly protest. By a perseverance in this habit the health is injured and the symmetry of the figure entirely destroyed

(p90)

Peter O.

2008-03-06, 00:28 #3

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Subject: all the text from 1856

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Health_and_beauty_by_Caplin
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Health_and_beauty_by_Caplin/…

but she corset from 1851 tell as tight lacing had a other meaning in that era.
http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/archive/exhibits/bodies/c…

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It's a matter of style, I think. I much prefer the google books version; it's far more readable than the wikimedia version.

Peter O.

2008-03-06, 06:37 #5

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Quote by andy:
It's a matter of style, I think. I much prefer the google books version; it's far more readable than the wikimedia version.

I can not see the google books version how do you do?

.what is wrong by the wikimedia version, perhaps i can correct that.

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2008-03-06, 11:30 #6

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Quote by andy:
although:

Against tight lacing we, in common with all who have paid attention to the subject, earnestly protest. By a perseverance in this habit the health is injured and the symmetry of the figure entirely destroyed
(p90)

when madam Caplin say: "enlarge the capacity of the chest" "expands of the chest". You today say: tightlacing

when madam Caplin say "tight lacing", You today say: Anorexia

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I can not see the google books version how do you do?

.what is wrong by the wikimedia version, perhaps i can correct that.

Peter O.

I think it's not really something you can do anything about: in Google books you can scroll to the next page (and even download the whole thing as a pdf) whereas in Wikimedia you have to go back to the contents to get to the next page.

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Quote by Peter O.:
when madam Caplin say "tight lacing", You today say: Anorexia

In women and girls, one of the most important symptoms of anorexia is the cessation of menses, and resumption of normal menses is taken as a sign of recovery when accompanied by weight gain. (see, for instance, this study). Moreover, "anorexia nervosa" had been described by the physician William Gull in 1874. (see this brief biographical note

Yet in all the volumes of material written against "tightlacing", no mention (or at least very little) is made of interrupted menstrual cycles.

Quote by Peter O.:
when madam Caplin say: "enlarge the capacity of the chest" "expands of the chest". You today say: tightlacing

It is possible to design or wear a corset that does not allow the ribcage to fully expand during respiration. Deep breaths are no longer possible, and the wearer resorts to a different strategy for obtaining air-- heaving bosoms and all that.

It is also possible to design a corset that does not restrict the ribcage, and that is what so many corset reformers attempted to do.

As for the small corset-perhaps it was made for a small, short individual-- the average woman today is a lot taller, and heavier than she would have been in the 19th century.

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Quote by andy:
Quote by Peter O.:
when madam Caplin say "tight lacing", You today say: Anorexia

In women and girls, one of the most important symptoms of anorexia is the cessation of menses, and resumption of normal menses is taken as a sign of recovery when accompanied by weight gain. (see, for instance, this study). Moreover, "anorexia nervosa" had been described by the physician William Gull in 1874. (see this brief biographical note

Yet in all the volumes of material written against "tightlacing", no mention (or at least very little) is made of interrupted menstrual cycles.

1. The written against "tightlacing" was first moralize and/or double standard of morality. And that was in fashion in that era

2. The written against "tightlacing" was for the most part copy of copy. Men living in a other world than woman. The anatomical drawings was censored between the legs, and woman's underwear was unmentionables. How they been able to tell about menses? They tell about the girls have abortion/miscarriage from "tightlacing", but the girls have no sexual life in that era as they only exceptionally was pregnant. Perhaps that was a circumlocution.

3. The irregular of menses and late menses was common in that era. The first menses start averaged at 18 years old in Denmark about 1800 and it start about 11-12 years old to day.

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Quote by Peter O.:
when madam Caplin say: "enlarge the capacity of the chest" "expands of the chest". You today say: tightlacing

It is possible to design or wear a corset that does not allow the ribcage to fully expand during respiration. Deep breaths are no longer possible, and the wearer resorts to a different strategy for obtaining air-- heaving bosoms and all that.

It is also possible to design a corset that does not restrict the ribcage, and that is what so many corset reformers attempted to do.

As for the small corset-perhaps it was made for a small, short individual-- the average woman today is a lot taller, and heavier than she would have been in the 19th century.

1. madam Caplin corset was reformer of first-rate.

2. The chest is build as the uterus can extend the chest when it is necessary. The thin waist in corset is a result of a corresponding extending of the chest! It is not easy to make the extending of the chest, but madam Caplin and some other expensive corsetmakers mastered the technique.

The Chest-expanders was rare because they was expensive and people was poor. But the singers chest been expanded as they been able to deep breath in the chest, because that was theirs job.

3. It is correctly as the half height give half in circumference. But in old days the waist been measured on the new unworn corset and not in use as to day.