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Corset & Health

Contemporary tightlacers claim that tightlacing does not adversely affect the health, as was believed in the later Victorian Era. Certainly, there are no contemporary medical sources condemning tightlacing, and the continued good health of modern day extreme tightlacers would seem to demonstrate that the practice is not dangerous—if properly done.

A safe training routine begins with the use of a well-fitted corset (most serious tightlacers have at least one custom–tailored corset) and very gradual decreases in the waist circumference. Lacing too tight too fast can cause extreme discomfort and potential short-term problems such as shortness of breath and faintness, indigestion, and chafing of the skin.

The primary effect of tightlacing is the decreased size of the waist. The smallest waist recorded is that of Ethel Granger, who tightlaced for most of her life and achieved a waist of thirteen inches: a reduction of over ten inches. Such extreme reductions take a very long time to achieve. At first, corsets with waist measurements four inches smaller than the tightlacer's natural waist size are recommended. The length of time it will take a tightlacer to get used to this reduction will vary on his or her physiology; a large amount of fat on the torso and strong abdominal muscles will mean that it takes longer for the tightlacer to wear their corset laced closed at the back. Thereafter, reducing another couple of inches is not much more difficult, but each inch after a six inch reduction can take a year to achieve.

The diminished waist and tight corset reduce the volume of the torso. This is sometimes reduced even further by styles of corset that force the torso to taper towards the waist, which pushes the lower ribs inwards. As a consequence, internal organs are moved closer together and out of their original positions in a way similar to the way that a pregnant woman's expanding uterus causes the organs to be displaced.

The volume of the lungs diminishes and the tightlacer tends to breathe intercostally—that is, with the upper portion of the lungs only, rather that the whole. Intercostal breathing is what gives the image of "heaving bosoms." Due to the lower portion of the lungs being used less there may be a mucosal build-up there; a slight and persistent cough is the sign of the body trying to clear this (and might also have lead to the Victorian hypothesis that corsets caused tuberculois).

The liver is pressed upwards. As it continually renews itself, it adapts to fit its new position, and in a long-term tightlacer it might develop ridges where it rests against the ribs. It is also possible that tightlacing exacerbates the tendency of some livers to develop accessory lobes, to the point where the accessory lobe becomes as large as the main portion of the liver. The point where the lobe and liver connect can be quite thin, and again, this might have lead to one of the Victorian myths about tightlacing: that a tightlacer can wear her corset so tight that it "cuts" her liver in half.

The compression of the stomach reduces its volume, and tightlacers find that eating too much gives them indigestion and heartburn; foods like carbonated drinks and beans can easily cause trapped wind. The compression of the intestines can cause constipation. Many tightlacers will alter their diet in order to avoid these problems.

Few permanent and serious effects have been attributed to tightlacing; even fewer of them have been proved. Theoretically, it is possible to fracture the ribs through tightlacing, although the necessary pressure would be brutal and the tightlacer would feel acute pain—certainly enough to let him/her know that something was wrong and that he/she should loosen the corset
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Asenath (Administrator) #2
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That's a very lovely summary!
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Thank you, just found on internet
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Contemporary tightlacers claim that tightlacing does not adversely affect the health, as was believed in the later Victorian Era.

Most of corsets today are copy of the most  harmful corset from the later Victorian Era.

the continued good health of modern day extreme tightlacers would seem to demonstrate that the practice is not dangerous—if properly done.

The number of modern day extreme tightlacers are low, and they are special sturdy woman. The extreme tightlacers also exist in the later Victorian Era. 

I have never see Invigorator corsets or corresponding corsets on the internet, soo  properly done corset do not exist today.

The primary effect of tightlacing is the decreased size of the waist.

No, primary effect of corset is change in breathing.

Few permanent and serious effects have been attributed to tightlacing; even fewer of them have been proved. Theoretically, it is possible to fracture the ribs through tightlacing,

The fracture of the ribs are real. The bone in corset bind the one end of the ribs and the tip go up and down by the breaths. in the border between bind and motion, the ribs get fractures.  The musculature which make the breaths in the chest been permanent strengthen as you can get problems by the respiration, without support of corset or  pregnancy belly (sport, opera/singing, pregnancy can also give problems by the respiration).
The corset often injure the skin of hips.
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Corsets are indeed harmful to the body.

Again, I am living proof for the following cases.

In my few years of serious tightlacing, I have come across the following sideeffects:

1: I get heartburn often, even when not wearing the corset. The pressure of the corset is actually greater than my sarcophagus muscle can hold and my foodpipe got burned by stomach acid over time.

2: Indigestion. Trust me, it is just not the same with and without the corset.

3: The corset makes me throw up in my sleep when wearing it tigthy. This is very dangerous as this can end in death when the matter does not come out of the lungs again. It has happened to me 3 times over time and I sudffered greatly for long periods with chest pain, couching for days etc. Luckily I didn't develop the dreaded pneumonia from it. My doctor warned me about the seriousness of this and I have actually stopped tightlacing while sleeping because of the risk.

4: The corset can make me grumpy at times for no reason at all. I sometimes become irritable for no apperent reason while shopping with my partner or so. It is caused by the corset. I have also found that if the corset is tight enough, I somehow cannot concentrate on small details like threading a needle or my job or something.

5: The corset definitely makes me euphoric. The tighter it gets, the less I want to do anything. I can just hang around, not be bored but not do anything - strange. It is not that I cannot do things or that they are difficulkt but rather that I just feel like not bothering.

6: The corset results in a stiff back and one looses the ability to bend over. I recently went to a fisio-therapist for something and he noted that my lower back is complety rigit and does not bend at all. (while no corset worn :) )
He demonstrated witha few exercises that indeed, I cannot bend my lower back bakwards or forward ar all. That doens't bother me but it upset him greatly and he wanted me to do special exercises for it. Well, I didn't do them becasue they hurt and the stiff back is really no problem for me :-)

7: Sensitive/ sore ribs or muscles. This has never gone away for me. They can really hurt badly when the corset is removed. I have found myself crouched over in agonyr, holding my bobs, too scared to speak or breathe because of severe pain. This goes away again after 10 -15 minutes or so and it doesn't happen often. Somehow, the rib musles or something can go into a spasm and that comes with great pain!


Good effects:

1: Corsetting made me loose weight (see other post).
2: Corsetting makes me feel really good for some reason. I would not want to miss out on that feeling. Maybe I am addicted?
3: While wearing the corset, my sore back stops hurting.
4: My posture is much better and I feel taller with the corset.

That's all I can report after some 4 years of serious tightlacing.
For me, the positives far outweigh the negatives even if they appear serious. So what - just really, really like corsets and corsetting.


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Ben
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I also have 4 years of serious tightlacing  the problems you mention has  NOT happend to me. I am very healthy. It just seems like you have laced too tight too fast and the corset has not been right for your body.

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I agree with Annalai, if things are taken gradually the body gets enough time to adjust to it's new 'fitting'.. these problems have only occured to people I know that laced it up fully too fast.
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No, not too fast and not too fully.

It is all completely relative. 7" overall reduction in 4 years over several corsets cannot possibly be called too fast to my opinion.

Different people react differently to things.
Some smoke and get cancer, other do and do not get cancer. Same with corsets.

Perhaps serious tighlacing is a relative term too?

Corset not right for me? Hmm, that is a possiblity. They all came from waspcreations in the past.
My next one will probably come from C&S but only if I manage to close this one.


What is your overall reduction from when you started Annalai?


Hey, I should defintely not be named  "Newbie Corsetee" on this forum or anywhere else. I have more corsetting experience than most.
How do I change that?


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Ben
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Hi again,

My reduction is just over 9 inches.
Here is a link to me and my corsets on Albert's Avenue 6 to 9. More will be added later.
http://www.staylace.com/albertcst/index6.html

Annalai
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bens_grpups2003: That is very interesting, I have not heard of someone having equally serious problems have had up to now. Since your corsets are all well-made I cannot come up with a good explanation either.

As far as the "newbie corsetee" is concerned... *lol* I guess I'll have to change the member status names, they are quite confusing. They just refer to the number of messages someone has posted here.
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I am looking very forward, we all like to be Goddess? :oops:
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Hi Asenath, something is strange here. Annalai has only done 11 posts and she is already "Official Corset College Goddess".

Tara has done 43 posts and she is only an "Occasional Visitor".

Hmm...

Annalai, could you please tell me, whether Albert makes coserts for anyone and whether he does mailorder too? I cannot find any site for him with google.


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Ben
Annalai (Moderator) #13
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Hi,

The titel Goddess I got from Roger Conroy some years ago when my waist got below 20 inches. My waist today is 18 inches above my corset. I am a 23/7 tightlacer to my knowledge Tara is not she only post things she founds on the net about corsets and corsetting here and in her own groups.

If You read on Albert's Avenue you will find out he only makes corsets as a hobby and for friends  only so no he does not take any orders and he has no website. All information about him and his corsets  can be found in Albert's Avenue on Staylace.

Annalai
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Yes Annalai

You are 100% correct, I am not a tightlacer. In my eyes your are the best corset promotor ever and YOU deserves that title in any ways as active member of several Yahoo! corset groups! So for us you are Goddess Annalai of the "The Corset College" forum".

I think that we are all very proud to have you here, that is my personal opinion.
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Hi Annalai

I am still intrigued by those leather corsets of yours (from Albert). What sort of leather and thickness are they actually made off? They do not look like garment leather but rather like heavy shoe leather or something? Do they have boning?

They certainly appear to be a very interesting construction method, sort of like medieval or something?
Are they machine sewn or done by hand with that stitching I seem to see on the panels?


Another question to all lacers here:
What corsets do you wear at night?


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Ben
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