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How to determine ideal waist size?
Roger Conroy (Administrator) 2006-03-01, 07:24 #1
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Subject: How to determine ideal waist size?
How did/do you decide what your (or your trainees) target waist size should be?

I use a combination of factors: height, weight, age, overall shape, lifestyle, hip size, "original" waist size, body mass index, etc.

Of course underpinning the whole process are needs and desires of the trainee.

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nehemya 2006-03-01, 22:00 #2
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In my case 5/8 of my bustline was perfect.

 This calculation gave me a 56 cm waist,with  natural 70 cm.

 I just reached it lately. :-D

 Maybe this doesn´t sound tight compared to others here.

 But this is the first great success to me! :mrgreen:
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miss_tori_jones (Moderator) 2006-03-02, 03:24 #3
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Quote by "nehemya":
In my case 5/8 of my bustline was perfect.

 This calculation gave me a 56 cm waist,with  natural 70 cm.

 I just reached it lately. :-D

 Maybe this doesn´t sound tight compared to others here.

 But this is the first great success to me! :mrgreen:

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Roger Conroy (Administrator) 2006-03-02, 08:32 #4
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Congratulations! Using a waist/bust ratio seems somewhat unusual. Waist/hip is more "traditional", many tightlacers use the term "hip-spring" which amounts to the same thing.

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Julia 2006-03-02, 12:54 #5
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Hello

Personally I would like to have a waist a bit thinner than my thigh, which is 55 cm (21,5"). I think about 45 cm, or 18". Of course, as I am very lazy, maybe I'll never reach this goal :-)

And also my congratulations to nehemya! Yes, this IS a great success!
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Markus 2006-03-02, 17:14 #6
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I have a slightly alternative view on the waist size issue. For me it depends on the shape and flexibility of my ribcage how far I can go down without the result looking freakish to me. What I don't really like is the effect where the corset sides seen from the front sharply turn where the ribcage starts. What I do like is either a gentle curve spanning the entire torso from the waist to the top of the corset or (ideally) a straight line.

This obviously limits how small my waist can be unless I would be dedicated enough to train my ribcage down to the desired shape at a really small waist size, which from all accounts I've heard would be much, much harder than the waist reduction itself, if it would be posible at all for me.

For me the minimum attainable and sustainable size with a torso-shape I like is probably somewhere around 55cm (which is incidentally the size of almost all my corsets), even though I feel I could probably get my waist smaller if I would accept a torso shape I don't really like. So in the end I'm much more interested in the overall shape of the corset than I am in the waist size itself.

This tends to be a bigger issue though with male corset-wearers than with female corset-wearers as males tend to have more barrel-shaped ribcages.
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nehemya 2006-03-07, 09:02 #7
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Thank you for congrats. I still have to get used to it.

Using a waist/bust ratio seems somewhat unusual. Waist/hip is more "traditional", many tightlacers use the term "hip-spring" which amounts to the same thing.

I found this method in severall texts on dressing in victorian days.
Considering that crinolines and large bustles were worn.
It makes sense if you look at those early bustle silouettes.

Maybe a good starting goal for training would be to take this calculation
on the more prominent part of the body,whether hips or bust.

According to my "slim-wellblessed-tree trunk" figure I could not
take my hip-spring as guidance.

But this how bodies differ...

Hope,I made sense "early in the morning". :wink:
Roger Conroy (Administrator) 2006-03-08, 07:01 #8
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Correct me if I'm wrong - What you're saying is that it makes good sense to use bust measurement as your "reference" if it is significantly larger than your hip measurement? That makes good sense to me! :-D

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GrayWolf 2006-03-15, 19:21 #9
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I like the a tiny bit thinner than the tigh thing as well :) It's pleasing to the eye
norbie 2006-05-28, 06:52 #10
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Subject: waist size!
Hi, I am Norbie and new, will soon send introduction and Avator.
May I put my 5 cent wert to this interesting question. In old Europe were I come from, (Austria) there was the golden Tailor rule: messure your wrist - the neck is twice the wrist and the waist is twice the neck.
try it it works fine and give you a little idea to work on.
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Peter O. 2006-06-03, 09:40 #11
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Quote by norbie on 2006-05-28, 06:52:
Hi, I am Norbie and new, will soon send introduction and Avator.
May I put my 5 cent wert to this interesting question. In old Europe were I come from, (Austria) there was the golden Tailor rule: messure your wrist - the neck is twice the wrist and the waist is twice the neck.
try it it works fine and give you a little idea to work on.
norbie
I have a book which say waist = 1/2 Chest. The book also say as many ask: What is my ideal waist size?

It is a 'no problem', It is hard to get the waist smaller, if the waist is round and without fat.

Peter O.
Roger Conroy (Administrator) 2006-08-06, 08:33 #12
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A new one to me.
I think this can only be applicable to ladies of "average" build.
Waist in cm = weight in kg.
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Annalai (Moderator) 2006-08-06, 10:21 #13
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Hi,

Well the golden rule does not work on me at all. If I double my wrist measurements it is still 2 cm smaller then my neck are. If I take my neck measurements twice I should have a 60 cm waist. So I would need to add a lot to my waist. My waist with my corset on above my corset is now during summertime 46,5 cm.

It exist a  German patternsysterm called Lutterloh it came out during the 1930 and is still in use and this patternsystem is based on the golden rule to my knowledge. The patterns are in a small scale and you have to draw them bigger with help of a special measurementtape and your own measurements. I have been thinking of bying this system but from all I have read about it and how it follows this golden rule I guess it would not work for a person like me who does not have the average built.

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Missyelle 2007-09-18, 02:33 #14
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I am going to buy my first corset soon, & I have decided to aim for an "ideal" waist-hip ratio of 0.7 (from front view, does not include butt in measurement). I don't know if anyone else have heard of this, but in several studies it is found to be the waist-hip ratio for women that is most pleasing to the eye. They've actually found that women with this ratio tend to be the most fertile & healthy. This also applies to different cultures/races as well. A ratio of 0.7 gives a pleasing, yet natural-looking hourglass shape. I personally do not like the unnatural look some tightlacers go for, when the waist looks pinched, no longer the smooth, gradual curve of the waist...or it doesn't look quite right proportionally to me, they start to look like an ant, with a large abdomen.  :-/ Ah well, everyone to their own.
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tighter_jen 2007-12-09, 02:23 #15
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I also like the thigh-size rule.  It is almost always proportional to the height and build of the person.  People with thicker legs also tend to have a heavier build, and vice-versa.  I suppose the exceptions would be athletes who work a lot with the legs, like figure skaters or cyclists or runners.

The shape counts too, but there we get into taste and that is a very, very wide spectrum.  I like a nice, conical chest for tighter waists.  An hourglass is better when the transition is less sharp, for a more natural figure.

So my goal is 20 inches, plus or minus, and a tapering, conical chest.  That would be very appropriate for my height (I am very tall, 5'11"/1m79). It fits my needs, and that is the most important. Of course anything less, if manageable, will be very welcome!

So proportion and personal goals go before absolute numbers.  The thigh-size rule is the best fit, in my opinion.

Jenny.
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