What kind of corset do I need to start with tight lacing?

Tara (Former member) 2005-11-24, 12:02 #1

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Subject: What kind of corset do I need to start with tight lacing?

Dear friends,

Several times we see the same question and I like to start this discussion with the question, " What corset is needed to start a real tight lacers programme?"

How should such a training-corset look like, what is essential for a trainings-corset, what needs your attention, what to do and what not to do, where can I find a corset-designer who can make this for me?

What type, underbust or overbust corset?

flexible or rigid steel bones?

front- or backlacing?

with front opening or without?

long or short corset?

fabric or leather?

how many bones?

Etc. etc, this are all questions which newbies in corset-training like to know from the "experts" in this forum.

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Roger Conroy (Administrator) 2005-11-24, 13:48 #2

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Thats where I come in. Because individuals differ so much and their requirements also vary - it is best if they get a personal consultation from a competent person.

KEEP TIGHT!!!

haabet 2005-11-24, 21:19 #3

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Subject: Re: What kind of corset do I need to start with tight lacing

question : " What corset is needed to start a real tight lacers programme?"

answer: A pair of stays by low front, made by thickly leather. By both front- and back-lacing

question : How should such training-corset look like, what is essential for a trainings-corset, what needs your attention,

answer: The essential for a trainings-corset is as the breathing go down to the lower ribs as they go upwards. The top of every breath push the lower ribs up, and slowly change the shape.

question: what to do and what not to do,

answer: The problem is: the ribs been longer when they go up. And a high stiff front will press the ribs down.

question: where can I find a corset-designer who can make this for me?

answer: http://www.staylace.com/ -- http://www.candsconstructions.com/indexf.htm make underbust start corset.

question: What type:
underbust or overbust corset?

answer: underbust corset, or a advanced overbust corset by two soft zones to the tips of ribs

question: flexible or rigid steel bones? how many bones?

answer: If the bones are to soft, the corset creased. If the bones are too rigid the corset use stop.

question: front- or backlacing?

answer: The frontlacing is best to the chest and backlacing is best to abdomen and waist.

question: with frontbusk or without?

answer: frontbusk? = Busk? Yes the lace have need of large length without Busk.

haabet 2005-11-25, 08:09 #4

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The bones and fabric/material correspond to each other.

Thin silk have many small bones. about 100 bones

Thick fabric have few bones. typically 8 bones.

flexible or rigid steel bones?

GrayWolf 2005-11-25, 09:49 #5

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I'm all with Roger on this. Personal consulation. This'll tell the corset maker where the person want to go to the get a better view of what needs to be done and made to make their program optimal

haabet 2005-11-25, 19:43 #6

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Quote by "GrayWolf":
I'm all with Roger on this. Personal consulation. This'll tell the corset maker where the person want to go to the get a better view of what needs to be done and made to make their program optimal

The number of corset makers are low. And the quality of many corsets are poor. Only C and S constructions have a education in human anatomy.

The number of CORSET KITTEN PIN UPS are lover as 70. Not all tight lacers are pinups, but not all corset pinpups are serious tight lacers. as the number of serious tight lacers is lover than 100

The number of woman who have test corset for tight lacing are minium 100.000. The difference between success and failure is 1 to 1000.

We havde need of a other technique/program as all woman can been tight lacers.

1.

The correct program form the lower ribs by bending up and down, by the breathing, and every breath forming the lower ribs, a bit.

The common wrong program form the lower ribs by a fixed pressure in and down.

2.

If the lower ribs by bending up and down, the corset have only a thin firm zone by the spine. This zone can not support the corset. The shoulders must support the corset. And in olddays all girls start by a corset by wide shoulder straps. But today any start corset have wide shoulder straps.

3.

Some people must make some serious start corset or tight lacing will go out of fashion, like many time before.

GrayWolf 2005-11-25, 21:51 #7

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Only C and S constructions have a education in human anatomy.

Excuse me, but I find that almost offensive to say. Do you know every single corset maker on this planet? Heck, I myself have studied biology and health AND keep that in mind when making corsets and placing boning and panels. My personal tight-lacing training was under close watch and advice of 4 doctors in a hospital because it was a (succesful) attempt at getting rid of a scioliosis ( this was between age 16 to 19) because I refused to wear the plastic brace.

C&S is good, I give you that... but they're not the only ones out there doing what is needed and keeping human anatomy in mind.

Asenath (Administrator) 2005-11-26, 12:23 #8

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I also don't agree with you, haabet. C and S make sturdy tightlacing corsets for all body types and personal needs. However, their corsets are no closer to perfection than those of other corsetmakers I've seen.

My personal advice is: Get your tightlacing corsets from a corsetmaker who is either a tightlacer or has a local "guinea pig" at hand as thhat's the best way for a corsetmaker to constantly improve his/her corsets and find weak spots as soon as they come up.

Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic

Annalai (Moderator) 2005-11-26, 17:02 #9

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I have never tried a corset from C&S but seen them and felt them and they do look ok to me but one thing I do not like about them is they all bend in the stomach very very much. This to me looks both unpleasent and actually unhealthy if it is I do not know. This was the main reason for me to get my first corset from Wasp creation Amys corsets does not bend into the stomach like the ones from C&S does.

I agree get your corset from someone who tightlace theirself or at least wear a corset often.

Annalai

michaela 2005-11-27, 02:26 #10

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I agree, there are many skilled corsetieres. No one style or corsetiere will work for all people. Personally, I find that C&S's corsets work best for my figure (I have a very broad ribcage and wide hips, with a small waist), but I understand that a different figure might work better with the work of a different corsetiere.

As for the "bending in the stomach," I own a number of different silhouettes from C&S. Some have a very prominent victorian curve at the waist, while others have a more edwardian fit. The one thing they all share in common is that they are incredibly comfortable and easy to wear for long durations. Again, I understand that someone whose anatomy is different from mine might not find them similarly comfortable, but I personally love the way they fit and the figure(s) they give me.

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Julia 2005-11-29, 21:41 #11

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I do agree, there are many skilled corsetiers who can make "healthy" corsets. I would like to know in what grounds haabet bases his statement about C&S (BTW, I agree their corsets are beautiful - specially on Michaela! - , but also think, as Annalai, that they seem to bend at the stomach).

GrayWolf, do your scoliosis disappeared or got beter with corset use? Having some back "bad curvings" myself, I'm very interested to know more about the use of corsets to relieve my problem.

GrayWolf 2005-12-01, 08:35 #12

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Julia:

Seeing as it was between age 16 and 19 that we worked on it I think it is to 'blame' on my still being in growth. It was almost corrected 100%, and won't give me problems in the future.